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  • Collision filtering uses the words "exclusive" and "inclusive".

    Exclusive: ignore colliding with certain tags

    Inclusive: only collide with these tags

    I find these words confusing, and often have to look up their intended meaning.

    To me, "exclusive" implies the opposite of what it does here (only collide with these tags).

    Do you think there may be better fitting words? Or is it clear for you?

    Maybe "Exclusive" could be replaced with "exclude"?

  • I see what you mean, but to be fair it literally and clearly explains it at the top.

  • I think it makes sense - another way to phrase it would be "collisions only include solids with these tags" (inclusive) and "collisions exclude solids with these tags" (exclusive).

  • yea to me it's easy to misunderstand: "exclusively collide with tags A, B and C" (which implies the exact opposite)

  • "Collide with tagged objects", "Ignore tagged objects"

  • John and Mary were invited to join an exclusive club that was allowed to play in the event.

    Ben and Tim were excluded from playing in the event.

    This shows how exclusive has an opposite meaning for me.

    But I can understand the choice to do it that way.

  • I think the easiest fix would be Mode: Exclude and Mode: Include

    -> Sprite: Set solid collision filter to Include "tag"

    -> Sprite: Set solid collision filter to Exclude "another_tag"

  • I think the easiest fix would be Mode: Exclude and Mode: Include

    -> Sprite: Set solid collision filter to Include "tag"

    -> Sprite: Set solid collision filter to Exclude "another_tag"

    I agree with this.

  • You would still be left with the potentially ambiguous meaning of "filter". (Which alone can imply both letting certain things through or block things from passing, of which include and exclude can then apply and flip the meaning of both possibilities.)

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  • I prefer oosyrag 's use of "Collide" and "Ignore". I personally have never had a problem remembering this, I just mentally swap "Exclusive" to "Exclude" etc., but fedca 's example interpretation of "exclusively collide with tags" is grammatically valid and very likely the first-glance interpretation of most people, especially ESOL users. Its a far more common usage in everyday speech as opposed to current text which I don't think I've ever heard spoken aloud in my life. The only places I can remember seeing it used in writing were in math text book sections on sets and in legal contracts or insurance policies where they are listing items to be included excluded from said document. Not exactly the wording most people will default to or even have any experience with.

  • mOOnpunk very true but that descriptive text isn't shown in the event sheets. Which means if you have trouble remembering you have to click into the action every time instead of just looking at the sheet.

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