Pick by UID change question

Hello everyone, loving the new patch. One quick question though.

The new patch has the following change:

<font color=green>'Pick by UID' is now not invertible (use 'Object UID exists' system condition instead)</font>

Can we still use ELSE events after it and would they enter if the Pick by UID failed to pick an object with that UID?

Thanks, again loving the change. I am a big Pick by UID user (I use this to do event inheritances in families and better modularize my code).

It should do, just make a quick test and see if it works. It was just specifically that if you inverted the condition, that condition itself would never be true.

Just did, I can confirm that it works.

Thanks Ashley

Ashley

It's sad but there's no real equivalent to

Sprite: [invert] pick by UID 

// create a new edge and save the UID of first node
+ Mouse: on left click on node
   -> System: create object edge at node.X,node.Y
   -> edge: set new to true
   -> edge: set firstNode to node.UID

// a new edge as been created
+ Edge: Is new
   // a close node other than the first Node -> we snap the edge to it
   + node: [invert] pick instance with UID edge.firstNode // so I pick every other
   + node: Pick nearest to (mouse.X, mouse.Y) // amongst every other node, the closest to the mouse
   + distance(mouse.X,mouse.Y,node.X,node.Y) < SNAP_RADIUS
      -> edge: Set angle toward(node.X, node.Y)
      -> edge: set width to distance(self.X,self.Y,node.X,node.Y)
      -> edge: set secondNode to node.UID

   // no close second node -> we follow the mouse
   + else
      -> edge: set secondNode to -1
      -> edge: set angle toward(Mouse.X,Mouse.Y)
      -> edge: set width to distance(self.X,self.Y,Mouse.X,Mouse.Y)
....

Whilst I love this update, It's broken my whole clothing engine, along with my combat system in my project. I'll work with it though, it's better in the long run :P

EDIT: Actually, No, this is so difficult to work around. Rolling back to previous update :(

Jase00

Maybe you could show a sample of the code that is breaking.

I'm wondering if removing the ability to invert pick by UID is a problem or not.

In my situation explained above, I could solve the problem with a boolean.

So it's less "sad" as I thought at first.

But if you really found a case where the work around is messy, it would be a good argument to convince Ashley of the necessity of it (:

also, I don't really understand how using Object UID exists is really equivalent to Pick by UID as suggested in the changelog.Pick by UID' is now not invertible (use 'Object UID exists' system condition instead)nless Ash meant it as "now you don't need to use Pick by UID to check if an object's UID exists" But I don't think it was the principal use of this action.

Using "Object UID exists" isn't good as I can't refer to the specific object. There's probably a way round it but I'm failing to figure it out in my mind.

Yann I am pretty much having the same problem as you with your nodal system; I NEED to "Unpick" an object. My combat system requires the attacker to be unpicked from being attacked. Now all the characters just hit themselves since they are no longer "unpicked", rather than hitting the character in front of them. :(

Jase00

Can't you add a boolean like attacker.ignored and switch it to true (somehow), and then use attacker: [invert] is ignored instead of attacker: [invert] pick by UID someUID ?

Yann

Hmm, that sounds like it might work actually. However, I'm currently on the version below and don't really feel like tampering with this just yet XD Thanks!

I didn't know anyone used 'Pick by UID' inverted, it seems like a strange thing to do. But since people used it I'll try and get it working again for the next beta.

Is it bad practice/inefficient to use inverted 'Pick by UID'?

Thank you! :D

Jase00

As far as I know, all "object condition" (meaning, not the system conditions) behaves like this:

- loop through all instances
[ul]
	[li]if an instance match the condition, add the instance to a picking list[/li]
[/ul]  -> then apply action to this picking list