Alright, I get you man.
So as a C2 beginner, what computing knowledge would you say I need to learn to before I could make a respectable, high quality game? I've made a platformer and a top down shooter using the respective tutorials, without any code or programming. Now I want to get my knowledge to a point where my next game can compete with the best on Newgrounds. I have ideas all ready, just need to technical ability to convert them into a quality product.