NW.JS Screen Tearing

Have you tested this against alpha8?

I hope they get it in order, this is the kind of stuff reviewers kick your shins for.

Alpha8 still has tearing. Doesn't seem as bad now but that could be a coincidence. I suppose the best thing to do is include a note/faq telling users to keep Aero switched on.

Personally wouldn't touch Win 10 with a barge pole. There aggressive push is borderline criminal. I'm sticking with Win7 until it is retired then hopping over to a competitor.

Same. There's no way I'm installing Win 10.

I'm probably switching to linux if they don't make "Win 11" extra special. In fact, I'm not even sure I'll wait for "win 11".

Now all I have to do is choose a distro...

i don't see why everyone is throwing so much hate on win10.

i'm using them for 3 months (and upgraded from 10240 to 10586) and i can't be happier. i was on xp/7/8.1/10 and i can tell you the best windows for me were 8.1, but now i'm suddenly more into 10 and they're taking me over from 8.1 (yes i know how everyone hated that metro menu).

and when it gets to "normal" users like me, you, someone else, and so on.. i don't see what the big "privacy fuss" is all about. like you ever spend 20hours reading eula before installing windows. just because media went batshit crazy on the privacy issue like it's something big doesn't mean that win7/8 isn't "spyin'" on you as they call it.

sending data through internet is done no matter what windows you use. your browser collects it, google collects it, everyone collects it. you can't get rid of it. and trust me, i'd rather have an updated windows system then some linux (i'm not saying that linux is bad, but it's got a lot of problems & driver / partition issues and so on..), because it runs fast, supports everything and their new "stuff" is somewhat taken from linux (multiple display desktops and such ideas) which is nice to see. but performance in general vs 7 (fps and other things - > way better on 10, even 8.1 was way faster). Also i dig the new "flat" look because simply win 7 (we're talking defaults here) look like garbage for todays standards (i know you can shut that off and all but ok..).

i don't see why everyone is throwing so much hate on win10.

Since you asked, for me personally it's not even the metro interface. That's just a symptom of what, for me, is a "dumbing down" of windows, apparently to make it more accessible to average people, but to the detriment of power users like me. Many options and features that were available and easily accessible were either removed or hidden, becoming accessible only via registry hacks or the use of third party programs.

This is a trend that started with vista, by the way. UAC is a linux ripoff (not that it's a bad idea - far from it, it was long overdue), with zero customization options. Want to set a program to automatically gain elevated privileges? Tough luck. Want to customize how windows update downloads patches, and when/whether to apply them? Tough luck. We gave up everything that made windows good for what? Metro tiles?

Windows 10, especially, feels like a "free to play" windows. You know that old adage: "If you're not paying, you are the product"...

i don't see what the big "privacy fuss" is all about. like you ever spend 20hours reading eula before installing windows. just because media went batshit crazy on the privacy issue like it's something big doesn't mean that win7/8 isn't "spyin'" on you as they call it.

Privacy is the biggest issue in this century, you can't just say "privacy fuss" and move on... Windows 7 is not a saint, but at least the data it collects is optional, and it warns you before doing anything with it. Windows 10 collects all kinds of data and phones home, with no option to disable it (besides downloading third party programs of dubious origins, registry hacks, etc.), and even if you do disable the options, there's no guarantee windows will respect them, since some updates apparently reset the choices. I doubt there will ever be an update that "accidentally" changed the privacy settings to maximum.

sending data through internet is done no matter what windows you use. your browser collects it, google collects it, everyone collects it. you can't get rid of it.

Sure you can. Use firefox, mess around in chrome... in fact everyone got super worried when "evercookies" were invented. There's even a linux distro (backtrack) that's specialized in leaving no traces. I could go on about TOR and VPNs and stuff but it's not necessary.

and trust me, i'd rather have an updated windows system then some linux (i'm not saying that linux is bad, but it's got a lot of problems & driver / partition issues and so on..), because it runs fast, supports everything and their new "stuff" is somewhat taken from linux (multiple display desktops and such ideas) which is nice to see. but performance in general vs 7 (fps and other things - > way better on 10, even 8.1 was way faster). Also i dig the new "flat" look because simply win 7 (we're talking defaults here) look like garbage for todays standards (i know you can shut that off and all but ok..).

The only thing holding me to windows is gaming and a few proprietary tools (construct 2 included). Soon these issues will disappear, and for everything else there are always virtual machines.

Alpha8 still has tearing. Doesn't seem as bad now but that could be a coincidence. I suppose the best thing to do is include a note/faq telling users to keep Aero switched on.

But it wasn't there before, was it? I don't have Win7, so I can't test it - but I recall stuttering, not tearing.

But it wasn't there before, was it? I don't have Win7, so I can't test it - but I recall stuttering, not tearing.

For me it's been this way for ages. Ever since I turned off aero I guess? I just figured vsync was broken and would get fixed sometime down the road..

i don't see why everyone is throwing so much hate on win10.

i'm using them for 3 months (and upgraded from 10240 to 10586) and i can't be happier. i was on xp/7/8.1/10 and i can tell you the best windows for me were 8.1, but now i'm suddenly more into 10 and they're taking me over from 8.1 (yes i know how everyone hated that metro menu).

If you're happy with it then all good. 8.1 has been fine for me as well except for some unstable network behavior.

[quote:1dfv0leb]and when it gets to "normal" users like me, you, someone else, and so on.. i don't see what the big "privacy fuss" is all about. like you ever spend 20hours reading eula before installing windows. just because media went batshit crazy on the privacy issue like it's something big doesn't mean that win7/8 isn't "spyin'" on you as they call it.

I simply don't enjoy the thought of companies building a big ole portfolio out of my internet habits, where I go in the world etc, for advertising purposes or anything else. I stopped using Facebook and Google products (mostly) years ago for the same reason.

[quote:1dfv0leb]sending data through internet is done no matter what windows you use. your browser collects it, google collects it, everyone collects it. you can't get rid of it.

You can minimize personal exposure if you want, but that gets extra hard when the OS *itself* is collecting data about you.

Fimbul - well you're wrong about a few things...

well what's wrong with "dumbing down" windows? i'm pretty sure that microsoft has the idea of creating a operating system where you can do everything without complicating much. so is android / ios /etc.. therefore AI is getting better (cortana / siri / etc..) and so on... The good stuff with windows is that these options are hidden - therefore Power users can still change and play with them. Normal users don't even know what registry is, and they probably don't want to mess around with it at all. plug and play is all people want today. Developers want custom control and fine tuning, but developers are 1%, 99% are customers.

when it comes to missing some parts of customization in windows - i think they choose what should be and what shouldn't be customizable. like UAC. noone (users) messes with that. maybe a few, when they want to disable it. most of it never touch it ever. work as it is. for me as a PU, it's annoying and goes off immediately.

i don't see why win10 is "free to play".

yes privacy is the biggest issue in terms of not releasing your information to outer world. like name, age, where you from, your social numbers, card numbers and so on... and i'm sad to dissapoint you, but if you have Facebook, you've already given 70% of your info to the world.

windows 10 phones home? first time i hear about it, can you provide some info about it? link or something? also - each option i've disabled - is disabled and doesn't change on update, nor does it work accidentally.

also you gotta take in consideration if your info is valuable ? - does microsoft care who you are? no. do they care what you have to say about their software? probably. do you want them to know your secrets ? it doesn't matter - if they do - noone else is going to know, only them, and if you don't want them to know you can disable it all.

and again sad to dissapoint you but this is where things get wierd for users - chrome / firefox / whatever need tweaking and people don't whine about it and they are way less private then they appear to be, but when it's windows everyone starts losing their minds

windows is great, and while linux doesn't have as good thing as windows has directX, software support and more.. it will never change. and people are just going to have to update. p.s. linux won't change windows soon. imagine if people switched to linux (normal users..) they'd be blown away by not knowing anything, and having to learn how to work in terminal... that is just... a big no for users.

yet you still haven't proved how linux (links pls, or arguments with proofs) or any other OS is better then windows and why is windows still holding 90% of market share (we're talking desktop/laptop here)

ErekT - interesting. i've stopped using facebook because i've had nothing to do on it, but i get your concern. still i don't think they have any advantage or what not if they take my data and build some profiles. still i don't think there is any potential dangers to them having that info, but even if some of the info leaked you'd have something to use against the company and sue them. that's why those informations are kept with great security.