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  • Hi moderators, I wanted to comment on the threads were published in Construct 2 General were deleted which are outside the rules.

    This is not spam or inappropriate things common, you know that we are viewing.

  • I don't understand what you mean and I don't know what you are talking about.

  • You posted revealing a method to circumvent something which basically resulted in breaking a terms of service. You did not post the method itself, but were promoting awareness of it, since it could be easily googled. As such, I deleted the posts.

    Please refrain from promoting awareness about such methods.

  • Arima what's most appropriate?

    Deleting his thread or deleting my post?

    whatever we didn't post a method or source, it was a question and awareness which is considered as theory.

    If you feel you made a mistake, you should apologize.

  • Arima what's most appropriate?

    Deleting his thread or deleting my post?

    whatever we didn't post a method or source, it was a question and awareness which is considered as theory.

    If you feel you made a mistake, you should apologize.

    Don't put words in my mouth. I don't feel I made a mistake.

    Deleting your post was entirely appropriate, as it was basically promoting piracy. Even without telling the person what the method was or linking to it, you were revealing its existence, which would cause more people to use the method by searching for info themselves.

    I don't know what thread you're talking about, though. I don't think I've deleted any recently, aside from ones created by spammers. Perhaps it was moved rather than deleted? Often people post threads in the wrong forum.

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  • Arima Did I promote piracy?

    Is that you really think? it's usually used to describe a material. We dont have it.

    Whatever you don't feel you made a mistake after all, I think you don't deserve to be a moderator. You can delete any threads if there are no evidences you want even we have friendly community where we share the experiences, now is no longer.

  • Arima's a great moderator, and has been around for a long time, helped me out repeatedly over the years.

    I'm not sure what's being referred to, but I very much doubt Arima would just delete something without a very good reason.

  • You said basically "there's a way you can circumvent something, I won't tell you how though." That person would then know there is a method and keep searching themselves, resulting in more people using that method.

    I suppose though I should have hidden the posts rather than deleting them, I agree about that and will do so in the future when something is potentially up for dispute.

    Don't pretend though like your post wasn't promoting awareness of how to cheat your way past something that the people who set it up don't want you to do. It could damage relations, and the only real reason to post something like that is to get people to search for the info themselves because they didn't know it was there. So yes, it's promoting piracy. Don't do it.

    Edit: it's also technically possible that a thread could have been hidden inadvertently due to a forum bug. When we ban spammers, any threads they posted in get hidden unless we delete the posts individually first. If they posted between when we thought we had deleted all the posts and then banned them, the thread they posted in would be hidden. Tom's working on converting the forum to different software, so once that's completed that shouldn't be a concern anymore.

  • Arima Let's see how you pretended and cheated, stop lying that I said. Take back what you said. I said "I've seen a hack, but I'm not allowed to tell here because there a "police" on this forum" it doesn't reflect how do it, it's an answer to the creator of this thread.

    However even I refuse on PMs. You can cheat and avoiding apologize as you wish.

    About the relation, it's not really my problem, but it would be nice if the company discovers it and they should able to fix it. In fact you deleted this thread, then company is still unaware about that and you keep it secret.

    Another idea in the future, you should stop deleting my posts weren't part of piracy or illegal, even rumours, theories, answers, etc.

    No point discussing with you until you apologize.

  • Arima I've seen that post before deletion and I agree it was inappropriate and it should be deleted/hidden or whatever. Doing great job keep it doing.

    @Joannesalfa You just answered yourself

    "I've seen a hack, but I'm not allowed to tell here because there a "police" on this forum"" - this is what I've called above inappropriate. You should never mention that kind of things on public forums like this one. If you know about some "hack" thing and you want developers of that software to be aware of that, just tell them.

    But after reading all of above posts saying "but it would be nice if the company discovers it and they should able to fix it" it's just wrong and bad excuse.

  • Agreed. Out of respect for Scirra, just report the thread and move along.

  • I was paraphrasing, that's why I said "you said basically" instead of "you said." I didn't mean to imply you said those exact words, just the basic gist of what they meant. Perhaps it's the language barrier, but I apologize for the confusion.

    However, I don't apologize for deleting the post (though as I said, I agree that I should have hidden it instead).

    Saying that it's not really your problem that the workaround exists does not absolve you of promoting it. Perhaps you missed it, but the very next poster after you mentioned how it was easily found via google.

    Also, if it was really your intention to bring the issue to the attention of the company, then as shinkan said, perhaps you should have emailed them privately rather than posting here publicly in direct response to someone asking how to circumvent it. You've got to realize how that doesn't look like you were doing it for their best interests.

    This isn't a big deal. Even if you disagree with me, it was at best a questionable post. It's not like I was unleashing tyranny on the forums. You didn't get banned, or even get a warning.

  • Arima based on what I read on this thread, I think you've made the right decision. I didn't see the original, but I have seen these kind of stuff for years (decades, more accurately) and it's not only illegal to post some stuff, but it's also unpolite as hell to post that kind of stuff onto official support forum of program.

  • Don't argue with the moderators. If your post was deleted, just move along.

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